Beiträge von rsmith02

    With that test image the result from the general Voukoder 8-bit 4:2:0 template looked okay. Saturations are a bit different between the Voukoder renders than the original but perhaps that's because they are clamped to Rec 709 upon output?

    With MPC black and the 10-bit 4:4:4 the superwhites and blacks are lost. The 10-bit file also doesn't look right bringing it back into Vegas.

    I then went into the custom preset and just took the 8-bit 420 template and changed it to 10-bit 444 while keeping everything else the same. This version looks fine in MPC and Vegas, and the same as the 8-bit 420 one. So something is wrong with the Voukoder template? I did both UHD and 1080p and they look the same for both render templates.

    Second version settings:

    General

    Complete name : C:\Users\Roger\Desktop\UHD 10bit 444 third time.mp4

    Format : MPEG-4

    Format profile : Base Media

    Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)

    File size : 360 KiB

    Duration : 5 s 5 ms

    Overall bit rate : 590 kb/s

    Writing application : Voukoder (VEGAS)

    Video

    ID : 1

    Format : AVC

    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec

    Format profile : High 4:4:4 Predictive@L5.1

    Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames

    Format settings, CABAC : Yes

    Format settings, Reference fra : 4 frames

    Codec ID : avc1

    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding

    Duration : 5 s 5 ms

    Bit rate : 587 kb/s

    Width : 3 840 pixels

    Height : 2 160 pixels

    Display aspect ratio : 16:9

    Frame rate mode : Constant

    Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS

    Chroma subsampling : 4:4:4

    Bit depth : 10 bits

    Scan type : Progressive

    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.003

    Stream size : 359 KiB (100%)

    Writing library : x264 core 164

    Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.77:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=8 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=11 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=480 / keyint_min=3 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=110 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=17.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=24 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=3:0.80

    Codec configuration box : avcC


    Not working settings:

    General

    Complete name : C:\Users\Roger\Desktop\Voukoder 10 bit 444.mov

    Format : MPEG-4

    Format profile : QuickTime

    Codec ID : qt 0000.02 (qt )

    File size : 518 KiB

    Duration : 5 s 5 ms

    Overall bit rate : 849 kb/s

    Writing application : Lavf59.16.100

    Video

    ID : 1

    Format : AVC

    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec

    Format profile : High 4:4:4 Predictive@L5.1

    Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames

    Format settings, CABAC : Yes

    Format settings, Reference fra : 4 frames

    Codec ID : avc1

    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding

    Duration : 5 s 5 ms

    Bit rate : 846 kb/s

    Width : 3 840 pixels

    Height : 2 160 pixels

    Display aspect ratio : 16:9

    Frame rate mode : Constant

    Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS

    Chroma subsampling : 4:4:4

    Bit depth : 10 bits

    Scan type : Progressive

    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.004

    Stream size : 517 KiB (100%)

    Writing library : x264 core 164

    Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.77:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=8 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=11 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=480 / keyint_min=3 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=110 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=17.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=24 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=3:0.90

    Codec configuration box : avcC

    I am not sure this is a Voukoder issue rather than a Vegas one but with VP 20 my 64-bit VST 2 TDR Nova Fx works fine until you go to render. I am using 11.3.2 with a manually pasted connector.

    It crashes with an x264 or NVENC preset with Voukoder instantly. It works fine with MagixAVC (Mainconcept or NVENC) in Vegas.

    Voukoder otherwise worse as expected in Vegas.

    In VP 19, media rendered with Voukoder x.264 is now flagged with a warning that it is not an efficient format for editing. I contacted Vegas staff about why this is happening and they reviewed the output and determined it was the very long GOPs. This warning was intended for highly compressed Zoom files.

    For editing they recommended GOP length no greater than 1-2 seconds of footage (so GOP of say 30) whereas general purpose recommended, maximum useful cost possible, etc. are setting it to maximum lengths of 300, 480, etc.

    I suggest reducing the GOP length of presets for x264 renders to facilitate further editing as some of us are using the output again in future projects.

    Also, CRF for the general purpose recommended is also maybe higher than necessary? Default is 23 but it's at 17 which might better suit a high-quality preset.

    It seems to depend on driver version or type.

    I haven't had a QSV option in 1+ years in Vegas Pro for MagixAVC or with Voukoder. I'm using i7-7700HQ processor in a Dell XPS 15 with Intel DCP latest driver.

    Oddly it seems to work with MagixHEVC.